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#19
by VizorZ0042 - opened

Hello dear @DavidAU .

For last 6 months (in total of 1+ year) I've been endlessly experimenting with sampling parameters.

I've managed to finally find the perfect combination with actually perfect (with actual limit of LLM) consistency and insanely good overall performance, which I released as variant of V3 here : https://huggingface.co/VizorZ0042/Perfected-AI-Sampler-Parameters_All-Models-All-Cases

Feel free to test any time you wish.

Best regards, VizorZ.

@DavidAU Also I haven't managed to properly test this model due to major issues with coherence, which goes from KCPP 1.113 (probably related to llama.CPP).

Such related issues goes worse with further versions; I wanted to warn Concedo about this, but unfortunately I don't have access for my main GitHub account as of now.

These issues are also mentioned in my repo, and you can easily encounter such issues with any of V3 variants.

Update: Managed to restore access for my main GitHub account; massage sent to the developer.

Owner

Thank you for your work and detail tests / configs ; these are excellent resources for all community members.

Thanks, @DavidAU , deeply appreciated.

I've been testing and experimenting with most of your older models for a quite long time and I think I found the core issue of your models, possibly including your newest ones.

The core issue is the application of datasets like heretic or decensorship without proper fine-tuning or possibly even training afterwards.

I've done countless tests with different sets of sampling parameters (or any recommended ones), and approximately in 90% cases any decensored or not properly fine-tuned model performs very poorly, while ~10% shows good short-term results.

For example after applying heretic dataset, even with KL Divergence as small as 0.008, the resulted logic integrity will be completely broken.

Here's one of the models that performed outstandingly well with any V3 variants (has heretic variants):

https://huggingface.co/TheDrummer/Anubis-Mini-8B-v1-GGUF

You can try it with any V3 variants and compare with https://huggingface.co/coder3101/Anubis-Mini-8B-v1-heretic (GGUF Q6K quants are not present in any other repos)

You can also check out other models from the original author; most models from this author perform outstandingly well.

@DavidAU Sorry if my conclusions seemed random for you. I will continue testing whatever models I can from your repo.

Since V3 only works with KCPP 1.111.2 and 1.112.2, and any newer versions show degradation in overall performance across different models and different sampling presets, I don't think V3 needs to be updated any further.

You see, each new version of KCPP might show completely different results across different models and identical settings, and I think it's a serious issue, and that issue prevents full utilization of overall performance for specific model.

Maybe this is why I was unable to reach any stable results (or "perfection") with some of your good models, only with those that I mentioned in my repo.

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